19th July 2007

How To Avoid Wells Fargo Collections Dept. Via Phone

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I am writing this post for 3 reasons:

  1. Wells Fargo SucksWells Fargo SucksWells Fargo Home Mortgage sucks and they just don’t care. Their goal, it seems, is providing bad customer service along with mortgage financing. You can read more about their bad behavior in this post and this post. After I wrote the first post, I was contacted by Wells Fargo corporate as detailed in the second post. Then, I received a letter saying basically we’re allowed to behave like this as specified in the mortgage documents you signed and we’re going to continue on like this and you’re going to like it.
  2. In this humble little blog, the first post (above) has been a freaking magnet for disgruntled Wells Fargo Home Mortgage customers. Every week since I made that post I get at least 2 comments and they’re all bad experiences from other home owners. Any more and I may set up a separate web site for this.
  3. Wells Fargo Home Mortgage collections department likes to use technology to “do their job better” in the form of a badly designed call-center automation system. Well, I can also play at that game. Wells Fargo, meet Asterisk.

I wrote about Asterisk earlier in this post about how to keep tenants’ and contractors’ phone manners in check using this system but it turns out that it’s also ideally suited to dealing with this annoying company as well.

First some background; Asterisk is an open-source telephony platform that runs on Linux. Basically it’s a pretty powerful phone system that can run on an old PC. It can do everything from handle VoIP calls to provide voice mail.

Another feature it has is called “zapateller.” This feature is used to inform the call-center automation system used by Wells Fargo and telemarketers alike, that your phone line is no longer in service. It does this by playing a special tone which is recognized by these systems.

When the call-center systems hears this tone, it removes your number from its list because it’s “out of service.” I’ve gone a step further and compiled a list of caller-id numbers that get this treatment. Oh ya, and by the way, the entire city of Des Moines, Iowa gets this treatment as well. Des Moines is where Wells Fargo’s headquarters are. In fact, when calls come in from any number on this list, my phone doesn’t even ring. They get the “out of service” tone and then straight to voice mail.

At this point, if Wells Fargo wanted to talk to me, they would need to send someone to my door or send a certified letter since most anything with the Wells Fargo logo on the envelope goes straight into the round file.

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  1. 1 On April 8th, 2008, Nick said:

    Go one further, http://www.trixbox.org.

    Self installing!!! All you need is a capable interface card, and you can get them on eBay (the cheap cards that is) for under $20!!!

    Go forth and enjoy a quiet phone free evening.

  2. 2 On July 8th, 2008, Joseph said:

    Maybe you shouldn’t be such a loser and pay your bills. Go back to your trailer park loser.

  3. 3 On July 8th, 2008, TheLandlord said:

    Read the post dumbass. And by the way, I live two blocks from the beach…..in Florida. Dumbass.

  4. 4 On July 23rd, 2008, James Elliott said:

    I believe Wells Fargo fails to understand the power of disgruntled people in large groups, or does not care. Why not have your bank send Wells Fargo a TEN CENT check (in addition to your regular payment) each and every business day? It takes MANPOWER to open envelopes and process all those EXTRA litte payments. Can you imagine what would happen if a MILLION people did that? We have to organize and maybe THEN Wells Fargo will listen. Thanks

  5. 5 On July 24th, 2008, Randal said:

    It’s not just the mortgage branch! Intrest accrued on an account I closed out 4 months ago and now I supposedly owe them an extra $85. When I try to call to get this staightenen out I get transferred all over the continental U.S. and still don’t get anywhere. I’m supposed to talk to my local branch manager but she has an office full of people to run interference and take a message. Amazingly enough she still hasn’t called me back.
    Anyone got any idea on how to handle this????

  6. 6 On August 26th, 2008, joe said:

    They also suck as far as their revolving accounts for business such as slumberland. They claim I bounced a check and have place me in collections. My bank continues to reassure them and document that I never bounced a check to them, but they don’t care, they just want the extra money they make on the late fees and bounced check fees.

  7. 7 On August 27th, 2008, Jennifer said:

    Or perhaps you should just pay your damn bills. Hmmmm what a thought.

  8. 8 On August 27th, 2008, TheLandlord said:

    You know, it would be good if Wells Fargo employees actually were to READ the posts BEFORE making stupid comments like the one above. But then again, I don’t think you have to know how to read to be hired by Wells Fargo. Cases in point:

    http://www.landlord-success.com/real-estate-investing/why-wells-fargo-home-mortgage-sucks

    http://www.landlord-success.com/mortgage/wells-fargo-home-mortgage-follow-up

    http://www.landlord-success.com/mortgage/incompetence-rules-at-wells-fargo-home-mortgage

    The first post has no less than 73 comments at the time of this writing. Trend maybe?!

  9. 9 On October 21st, 2008, m w said:

    It is quite refreshing to know that others are having the same drama that I have been having. I am truly disappointed in Wells Fargo, and I will NEVER do business with thm again. Anybody here understand the collection practices associated with REFUSAL OF PAYMENT and regulations set forth? I truly believe that my rights have been violated.

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